7-2 to 7-6-2018


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7/9 MONDAY’S Survival Word is “Sleeping Bag”

7/10 TUESDAY’S Survival Word is: “L.E.D. Lantern”

7/11 WEDNESDAY’S Survival Word is: “Poncho”

7/12 THURSDAY’S Survival Word is: “Compass”

7/13 FRIDAY’S Survival Word is: “Freeze Dried Food”

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Foolish former Gov Ted Kulongoski comments in the Klamath Herald and News in favor of Klamath River “Renewal”. I have tried several times to log in and comment on the paper’s site to no avail. I suspect they’re restricting opposition. Will keep trying, perhaps you could too? Here’s my comment:

“With all due respect, dam removal fans are total fools. The Klamath Basin Compact guarantees the beneficial use of this water. Even were Pacificorp to not relicense the dams for hydroelectric use, the beneficial uses for the water remain, as does the legal document. Hundreds of dips were made into the Irongate just this week to battle the Klamathon blaze. The Cascade Siskiyou National Monument would likely have burned without this beneficial use.

In addition, this policy consensus fraud of a process is an offense to true representative government. That policy consensus fraud, btw, facilitated by Governor Kitzhaber first, Gov. Kulongoski second, and continued through Gov. Kate Brown.

Meanwhile the Oregon DEQ is taking public comments for the 401 water permit required to blow J.C. Doyle. Only the most deluded person (or bought off Gang Green crony) would permit flooding a river with millions of tons of sediment and runoff, and not term it pollution. This has been a true fraud and crime perpetrated through an agenda-based process. Resist it at all cost.”

Bill’s Guests for: Friday, July 13, 2018: Happy Friday The 13th!

6:35: Rick Manning, President of Americans for Limited Government talks with Bill, and brings you the latest Swamp Update. We’ll be going over yesterday’s testimony of FBI Peter Strzok in Congress.

Read more at: GetLiberty.org and DailyTorch.com.

7:10: Greg Roberts, Mr. Outdoors from RogueWeather.com calls in to bring you the Water World Boat & Powersport, Outdoor Report.

7:35: Knute Buehler, GOP Candidate for Oregon Governor joins Bill, live in studio to tell you about his latest strategy for defeating Democratic incumbent, Kate Brown. He’ll take your questions as well.

Find more information at KnuteBuehler.com.

8:10: Don Stinson, author of: “Downstairs at the White House,” chats with Bill this morning.

At the age of 17, Don Stinson accidentally landed a job in the White House during Watergate. What he saw as the biggest political scandal in American history literally unfolded in front of him, ran the gamut from the deeply profound to the wildly hilarious. More about his book at www.DownstairsAtTheWhitehouse.com

8:45: Jeff and Kris Allison, the owners of Black Rock Coffee join Bill, live in studio, for today’s edition of “Whose Business Is It Anyway?”

Check out the Black Rock Coffee Bar on Biddle across from Food 4 Less in Medford, and their sit-down location in the Northgate Shopping Center. They are the new providers of the official coffee of the Bill Meyer Show!

Check them out at: BR.coffee.

Bill’s Guests for: Thursday, July 12, 2018

6:35: Vince Patton, Retired U.S. Coast Guard 8th Master Chief Petty Officer and member of the New Day USA, talks with Bill today.

For the first time in recent memory there are more job openings than there are eligible workers to fill them. Last month, the U.S. economy added 213,000 jobs to the workforce, yet employers are having trouble filling the openings. CNBC released an article detailing the difficulty in finding qualified candidates to fill the record 6.7 million job openings.

With 3.3 million veterans being underemployed, they are perfect leaders and candidates to fill these open positions.

7:10: Greg Roberts from RogueWeather.com, and Capt. Bill Simpson near the Klamathon Fire lines, call in to bring you the latest Fire Report. Read Capt. Bill’s latest report at MyOutdoorBuddy.com.

7:35: Cody Wilson, author of: “Come and Take It: The Gun Printer’s Guide to Thinking Free,” talks with Bill. Cody is the founder and director of Defense Distributed, Home of The Wiki Weapon Project, a non-profit organization that developed and published the world’s first open source gun designs suitable for 3D printing. We’re kicking around his lawsuit win against the federal government.


BELLEVUE, WA – The Department of Justice and Second Amendment Foundation have reached a settlement in SAF’s lawsuit on behalf of Cody Wilson and Defense Distributed over free speech issues related to 3-D files and other information that may be used to manufacture lawful firearms.

SAF and Defense Distributed had filed suit against the State Department under the Obama administration, challenging a May 2013 attempt to control public speech as an export under the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR), a Cold War-era law intended to control exports of military articles.

Under terms of the settlement, the government has agreed to waive its prior restraint against the plaintiffs, allowing them to freely publish the 3-D files and other information at issue. The government has also agreed to pay a significant portion of the plaintiffs’ attorney’s fees, and to return $10,000 in State Department registration dues paid by Defense Distributed as a result of the prior restraint.

8:10: Julie Niles-Fry, of Logos Charter School and former member of the Rogue River School Board joins Bill, live in studio. Today, we’ll be talking with Julie about CTE Programs in school, and how to pay for it, as well as other educational issues.

Bill’s Guests for: Wednesday, July 11, 2018

6:35: Sheriff Richard Mack (Ret.) of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association talks with Bill this morning. We’ll be going over the pardon, handed down by President Trump, given to Oregon cattle ranchers, Dwight and Steven Hammond.

Find out more information at: CSPOA.org.

7:10: Greg Roberts from RogueWeather.com, calls into the show to bring you today’s Special Fire Report.

7:35: Lt. Justin Ivens from the Medford Police Department, joins Bill in studio for today’s Crime Stoppers Case of The Week.

8:10: Mr. X, crack researcher, Green Mafia expert, friend of the Bill Meyer Show and all around nice guy, leaves the safety of his hidden Southern Oregon bunker, and joins Bill, live in studio.

We ask that you keep the comments coming in order to save critical dams from being torn out by the Leftist Hordes. The deadline for public comment is Monday, July 23rd.

8:45: Mike G, from the Britt Festival drops by the studio to tell you about the latest shows coming to the Britt Pavilion as Britt Fest Season carries on.

Get show information and tickets at: BrittFest.org.

Bill’s Guests for: Tuesday, July 10, 2018

6:20: Capt. Bill Simpson, retired U.S. Merchant Marine officer and emergency preparedness expert calls to bring you the latest from the Camp Creek Fire Line of the Klamathon Fire in Siskiyou County.

Read Capt. Bill’s report from the front lines of the Klamathon Fire: “Catastrophic Klamathon Wildfire – Report From the Camp Creek Fire Line.”

6:35: Jenny Beth Martin, President of Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund chats with Bill. We’ll talk with Jenny Beth about President Trump’s pick for the U.S. Supreme Court, Brett Kavanaugh.

Read her latest op-ed at The Hill: “Liberals Forget Constitution as Supreme Court Battle Fires Up.”

Find more information at: TeaPartyPatriots.org.

7:10: Greg Roberts of RogueWeather.com, calls in to bring you another great fire report.

7:35: Sal Esquivel, Oregon State Representative, (R-Medford) checks in from Salem, with a Legislative update.

8:35: Mark Miller, a Senior Attorney with the Pacific Legal Foundation chats with Bill. Mark is here for more analysis of President Trump’s pick for the U.S. Supreme Court, Brett Kavanaugh.

Get more great information at: PacificLegal.org.

Bill’s Guests for: Monday, July 9, 2018

6:35: E. Werner Reschke, Oregon State Representative (R-Klamath Falls) calls the show. The DEQ comment period on the removal of the Klamath Dam has been extended. We’ll talk with Representative Reschke about his public comment on the issue. His Letter is below:

TO: Chris Stein, Hydroelectric Specialist, Oregon Department of Environmental Quality\, 165 E Seventh Avenue, Eugene, OR 97401

RE: Letter in Opposition to Dam Removal Along the Klamath River

I stand in firm opposition to dam removal along the Klamath River. For multiple generations these dams have provided exemplary flood control, and abundance of clean, renewable, reliable and affordable power for the region, in addition to recreational enjoyment.

I understand DEQ is only asking for comment on the JC Boyle Dam which sits within Oregon’s borders, however, the proposal is to remove four dams along the Klamath River.

Discussing removal of one dam outside the scope of the entire project leads to false assumptions and incorrect conclusions about the overall impact to the environment and Oregonians.

You will no doubt hear and read a wide array of reasons opposing dam removal along the Klamath River. My comments will focus on three areas: dam sediment, surface flushing and public opinion.

First, starting with the public hearings of SB 76 in 2009 it was clear then, and remains clear now, that no one has seriously addressed the “colloidal goo” build-up behind all four dams. At that time the estimate was 9,000 acre feet of sediment. It is reasonable to assume, nine years later, there is now even more sediment. To put this into perspective 9,000 acre feet is equivalent to 14 square miles of mud.

To remove such a volume of material from the riverbed would take 1,500,000 ten yard dump trucks. In 2009 the cost estimate for such an undertaking was between $1.5 and $4.5 billion. It will be even more today. These real costs have yet to be addressed. Who will pay? Rate payers? Taxpayers? Pacific Corp? Klamath River Renewal Corporation?

Moreover, the emissions created by such a project would not be consistent with Oregon’s pursuit of cleaner air and lower carbon standards.

The alternative is to allow this toxic sediment to travel down river. The vast ecological damage that would occur is unconscionable. To claim to be for clean water and sustainable fish habitat and at the same time allow more than 9,000 acre feet of sludge to flow down the Klamath River is incoherent reasoning at best, and potentially the most devastating man-made disaster even witnessed in the U.S. at worst.

Second, without dams along the Klamath serious questions arise concerning surface flushing.

Currently the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation is required to store and flush several thousand cubic feet of water at a time to address the C. shasta parasite.

Today the Klamath River dams control the flow of this massive rush of water in stages. Without any control from the initial release up-river, what will be the loss of life to unsuspecting wild life? Furthermore, without the dams controlling this massive flush of water in stages how much more erosion will occur adding more sediment to river?

Finally, in 2014 Siskiyou County (California) residents voted nearly 80% in opposition to dam removal.

In 2016 citizens in Klamath County (Oregon) voted 72 percent against dam removal. During this same time a private survey also found 75 percent of people affected by this massive change on the Klamath River were opposed dam removal.

It is clear the overwhelming majority of people directly affected by this potential action on the Klamath River are opposed to dam removal. Our government is to be by, for and of the people, not the other way around. This dictate of dam removal comes from outside the area and is being foisted onto those who have depended on these dams for generations.

The people’s will is to keep, enhance and move forward with these dams in place to provide affordable power, recreational opportunities and flood control for the next several generations to come.

For these reasons I stand with the people of the Klamath River basin and the environment in firm opposition to removal of dams along the Klamath River.



State Representative, HD 56

7:10: Greg Roberts, Mr. Fire from RogueWeather.com calls in the bring to you the Water World Boat & Powersport Outdoor Report.

Also, as a man with wildland firefighting experience, Greg will give you an even more detailed update on what’s going on with the Klamathon Fire.

7:25: Capt. Bill Simpson, calls in from Northern California to bring you even more information from the front line of the Klamathon Fire.

7:35: Gary Lake, former Karuk Tribal Council member and John Martinez, former Economic Director for the Karuk Tribe, talks with Bill. Gary continues to raise questions about California Congressman Doug LaMalfa’s push to fast-track recognition of the Ruffey Rancheria (Etna Band of Indians) Tribal Council.

8:10: Dr. Dennis Powers drops by the studio for today’s “Visiting Past & Present” segment. Be sure to check out Dr. Powers’ website for all of his works. DennisPowersBooks.com.

Lithia Water: In Bottles and Fountains


Dennis Powers

With over forty bubbling mineral springs in and around the City of Ashland, it was natural that people would commercialize this. Dating back to 1891, John Wagner (of Wagner Creek fame) built a bottling business a few miles east of Ashland. Ordering crown-top bottles from a St. Louis concern, Wagner was the first to use these in Southern Oregon. He later purchased ones made in Berkeley, California, with the words “Siskiyou Natural Mineral Water” stylized on them and by wagon delivered these throughout the region (including Hilt and Hornbrook) or by railroad to San Francisco and Portland.

This mineral water was drunk, soaked in, and even its vapors inhaled at baths, all due to the believed medicinal values. Lithia water is mineralized water with lithium salts, such as lithium carbonate or lithium chloride, and having these natural springs around Ashland was rarealthough other locations as Sarasota Springs (New York) and throughout Georgia were also well known.

With Ashland’s near equidistance between San Francisco and Portland, Southern Pacific Railroad championed the city’s mineral springs and stated they were classified as “Lithia, Soda, and Sulphur Springs.” The owner and editor of the Ashland Tidings, Bert Greer, is credited with bringing about the building of a system that brought the Lithia waters to town.

His support resulted in the residents passing a $175,000 bond issue (a large amount then) in 1914, of which $100,000 ultimately went to build a pipeline system from the “Lithia Springs” well house and pump, near Ashland’s present airport and about three miles east of the city, to a bottling station in Lithia Park; most of the remaining moneys went to develop the park. Wagner closed his bottling plant in 1913.

Located roughly parallel to a “Mineral Water Pavilion” and upstream from the original bandshell, the spot fed Lithia fountains in the park and at the railroad depot to greet new arrivals. The mineral water was also mixed, carbonated, and bottled for sale. The Lithia water was highly concentrated in different minerals, including salt.

A 1915 plaque stated that the following was present in milligrams per liter: sodium chloride (4545), sodium bicarbonate (2456), potassium bicarborate (280), lithium bicarbonate (154), calcium bicarbonate (1404), and magnesium bicarbonate (1153). A recent analysis put the prime components at chlorides, sodium, calcium, boron, and lithium. (One would need to drink 150 liters of the water to meet a doctor’s standard dose of lithium as a “mood stabilizer.) With this composition, one can see why drinking this water was not considered to be pleasant, either then or now.

The entire project proved unprofitable and was a failure, as the mineral water business dried up during and after World War I due to changing tastesand the depression ended what was left. The “Central Bottling Station” was abandoned; although used briefly as a Boy Scout headquarters, the building was ultimately demolished.

All that is left of the bottling center is a concrete slab after climbing a steep, staircase to the left when one is walking through the trees from Lithia Park’s playground on Ashland Creek’s east bank. After the slab, another staircase rises from there to South Pioneer Street. The remaining staircases were nominated for inclusion on the National Register of Historic Places and are part of the Lithia Park Historic District.

A two-inch iron pipe today still carries the mineral water to the fountains on Ashland’s central plaza and nearby Lithia Parkalthough little else remains of these endeavorswith the visitors today carrying their drinking water in plastic bottles.

Sources: Wikipedia: Lithia Park,” at Lithia Park; City of Ashland: Lithia Springs Historic Photos,” at Old Lithia Springs Images; Dawna Curler, “Bottled Water,” Jefferson Public Radio: As It Was, May 26, 2005, at Bottled Waters; Maryann Mason, “Lithia Mineral Water Has Long History,” Jefferson Public Radio: As It Was, February 26, 2009, at Lithia Water; Mail Tribune, “Ashland’s Lithia Water makes no boasts about Healthfulness,” June 6, 2014, at Concentrations and Lithium.

My Klamath Dam Comment to Oregon’s DEQ (Today, 5pm is the deadline)


TO: Chris Stine, Hydroelctric Specialist, 165 E. 7th Street Ste 100, Eugene, OR 97401

Email Klamath401@deq.state.or.us


I implore you to follow the law in addition to common sense, and DENY the KRRC it’s 401 DEQ water quality permit that would facilitate the destruction of the J.C. Boyle Dam.

I refer to ORS 468B.005’s definition of pollution.

(5) “Pollution” or “water pollution” means such alteration of the physical, chemical or biological properties of any waters of the state, including change in temperature, taste, color, turbidity, silt or odor of the waters, or such discharge of any liquid, gaseous, solid, radioactive or other substance into any waters of the state, which will or tends to, either by itself or in connection with any other substance, create a public nuisance or which will or tends to render such waters harmful, detrimental or injurious to public health, safety or welfare, or to domestic, commercial, industrial, agricultural, recreational or other legitimate beneficial uses or to livestock, wildlife, fish or other aquatic life or the habitat thereof.

The millions of tons of sediment, waste, and agricultural runoff trapped behind this dam certainly qualifies as pollution under the ORS. Were a regular citizen to approach you for a discharge permit to flow millions of tons of sediment and pollution down a wild and scenic river, your laughter could be heard (imo) from Eugene to where I live in Medford. And you would be correct to laugh. Your duty is clearly defined. (back to the ORS, again)

(2) The water pollution control laws of this state shall be liberally construed for the accomplishment of the purposes set forth in ORS 468B.015. [Formerly 449.070 and then 468.705]

468B.015 Policy. Whereas pollution of the waters of the state constitutes a menace to public health and welfare, creates public nuisances, is harmful to wildlife, fish and aquatic life and impairs domestic, agricultural, industrial, recreational and other legitimate beneficial uses of water, and whereas the problem of water pollution in this state is closely related to the problem of water pollution in adjoining states, it is hereby declared to be the public policy of the state:

(1) To conserve the waters of the state through innovative approaches, including but not limited to the appropriate reuse of water and wastes;

(2) To protect, maintain and improve the quality of the waters of the state for public water supplies, for the propagation of wildlife, fish and aquatic life and for domestic, agricultural, industrial, municipal, recreational and other legitimate beneficial uses;

(3) To provide that no waste be discharged into any waters of this state without first receiving the necessary treatment or other corrective action to protect the legitimate beneficial uses of such waters;

(4) To provide for the prevention, abatement and control of new or existing water pollution; and

(5) To cooperate with other agencies of the state, agencies of other states and the federal government in carrying out these objectives. [Formerly 449.077 and then 468.710; 2009 c.248 §1]

Everything about this 401 permit plan violates these standards, and destroys the beneficial use of these waters to the state/citizens of Oregon. No treatment will be performed by the KRRC, they’d just blow up the dam, and flood the river over a number of years with toxic sediment, while hoping for the best. Originally, the plan offered was to dredge the sediments, but then it was “too expensive”. Too bad, I say…follow the law. You wouldn’t grant such an exception for a normal citizen wanting to do this…Why should you grant it to Pacificorp/KRRC?

Additionally, where is the contingency/backup plan if KRRC is unable to perform financially or otherwise? It only has the assets transferred from Pacificorp, and has no assets of its own, or income stream. Where is the evidence that KRRC has the expertise/track record to safely do this? There is none, nor has any been demanded. Why have you not asked for this?

One more time to the ORS:

468B.020 Prevention of pollution. (1) Pollution of any of the waters of the state is declared to be not a reasonable or natural use of such waters and to be contrary to the public policy of the State of Oregon, as set forth in ORS 468B.015.

(2) In order to carry out the public policy set forth in ORS 468B.015, the Department of Environmental Quality shall take such action as is necessary for the prevention of new pollution and the abatement of existing pollution by:

(a) Fostering and encouraging the cooperation of the people, industry, cities and counties, in order to prevent, control and reduce pollution of the waters of the state; and

(b) Requiring the use of all available and reasonable methods necessary to achieve the purposes of ORS 468B.015 and to conform to the standards of water quality and purity established under ORS 468B.048. [Formerly 449.095 and then 468.715]

There is no way you can approve this permit, while following the water pollution laws and policies of the state of Oregon, and not only would approving the permit damage the environment and destroy the beneficial use of these waters, imo it makes the state liable for damages through not following these laws. Do your duty, follow the law and common sense, and deny this water permit. Thank you.


Bill Meyer

3624 Avion Drive

Medford, OR 97504



Bill’s Guests for: Friday, July 6, 2018

6:35: Rick Manning, President of Americans for Limited Government joins Bill, to bring to you the Swamp Update, and other shenanigans in the Federal Government.

Find out more at: GetLiberty.org, and DailyTorch.com.

7:10: Greg Roberts, Mr. Outdoors from RogueWeather.com, calls in to bring to you the Friday, Water World Boat & Powersport, Outoor Report.

7:35: Knute Buehler, GOP Gubernatorial Candidate chats with Bill this morning on his ambitious education policy plan. Mr. Buehler will also take your questions.

Go to KnuteBuehler.com to find out more.

8:10: Mr. X, crack researcher, expert on all things Green Mafia, friend of the Bill Meyer Show, and all around nice guy, leaves the safety of his hidden Southern Oregon bunker, and joins Bill, live in studio. Today we’re talking the final day to get Klamath Dam comments in, and two important letters coming out of the Jackson County Commission.

8:35: Michelle Owens, Attorney and Spokesperson for the Center for Prosecutor Integrity talks with Bill. Today, we’ll be talking with Michelle about the over-the-top indicators that the U.S. Department of Justice has moved to the far Left.

Learn more at AgeeOwensCooper.com.

Bill’s Guests for: Thursday, July 5, 2018

6:35: Matthew Heiman, Chairman of the Cyber & Privacy Working Group of the Regulatory Transparency Project talks with Bill this morning.

Business are criticizing California’s new consumer-privacy legislation, saying it risked far-reaching damage to everything from retailers’ customer-loyalty programs to data gathering by Silicon Valley tech giants. One attorney said many law firms see the new bill as generating a “bonanza” in fees as companies rush to either comply or push for changes. Tech companies view the new law as a knee-jerk response to a series of revelations over the past year, such as Facebook’s handling of user data, that shook consumer confidence. The companies are frustrated they weren’t consulted about how to implement the law.

This plays into the long debate between the relationship of innovation, privacy, and regulation.

Heiman is a former attorney at the Department of Justice, and is a visiting fellow at the George Mason Scalia Law School’s National Security Institute

Find out more at: RegProject.org.

7:35: Horace Cooper, a legal commentator, and a fellow with the National Center for Public Policy Research chats with Bill today.

A meritless, multi-billion-dollar shakedown of American energy companies” is what Horace Cooper, legal commentator and a fellow with the National Center for Public Policy Research, calls the lawsuits filed against energy companies by municipalities in New York, California, Louisiana, and Colorado.

A judge in California saw through the money grab last week and dismissed the cases in that state. However, the cases in New York City, Colorado, and Louisiana are still pending.

In Louisiana, the lawsuits blame energy companies for the state’s coastal erosion, but it makes no mention of the levee system built by the Army Corps of Engineers that pushes coastline building silt into the Gulf of Mexico. New York City, just like California, wants to place the blame for all of planetary climate change at the feet of a handful of energy companies, saying climate change will cause damage to waterfront property. Then, out of the other side of their mouths, these politicians make no mention of the possible rise in sea level when encouraging investors to buy expensive, waterfront property.

Find out more at: NationalCenter.org.

8:10: Court Boice, Curry County Commissioner talks with Bill today with and update on the Lobster Creek Fire, and other fire issues going on in that part of the state.